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Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
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Lier, Disciple of the Drowned

{3}{U}{U}

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard

Spells can't be countered.

Each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost.

Beneath the waves, lost gods stir in their slumber.

3 / 4

Set
Tarkir: Dragonstorm Commander (TDC #157)
Rarity
Mythic
Mana value
5
Released
2025-04-11
Artist
Ekaterina Burmak
EDHREC rank
#2,188
Colour identity
{U}
Finishes
Nonfoil
Served from
Local database

Commander bracket

1 +
Fits any bracket
No Game Changer, land denial, extra turns or two-card combos.

Derived from card traits, not a ruling — bracket rules turn on how a deck intends to use a card. Bracket rules

EDHREC

Salt Score 0.58
How much players resent seeing this card. The scale tops out around 3.1.
Can be your commander

Combos 7

Lier, Disciple of the Drowned+Merfolk Secretkeeper // Venture Deeper+Ashnod's Altar+Chromatic Orrery
{U}
Infinite creature ETBInfinite creature LTBInfinite creature sacrifice triggersInfinite death triggersInfinite magecraft triggersInfinite millInfinite self-millInfinite storm count
Lier, Disciple of the Drowned+Merfolk Secretkeeper // Venture Deeper+Phyrexian Altar+Desecrated Tomb
{U}
Infinite colored manaInfinite creature LTBInfinite creature sacrifice triggersInfinite creature tokensInfinite death triggersInfinite mill
Leyline of Sanctity+Sky Swallower+Fractured Identity+Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
{W}{U}
Gain control of all permanentsMass Land Denial
Rosethorn Acolyte // Seasonal Ritual+Ashnod's Altar+Swarm Intelligence+Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
{G}{U}
Infinite colorless manaInfinite creature ETBInfinite creature LTBInfinite creature sacrifice triggersInfinite death triggersInfinite magecraft triggersInfinite storm count
Lier, Disciple of the Drowned+Merfolk Secretkeeper // Venture Deeper+Ashnod's Altar+Mycosynth Lattice
{U}
Infinite creature ETBInfinite creature LTBInfinite creature sacrifice triggersInfinite death triggersInfinite magecraft triggersInfinite millInfinite self-millInfinite storm count
Lier, Disciple of the Drowned+Isochron Scepter+Pull from Eternity+Rise of the Eldrazi
{W}{U}
Infinite turnsLock
Rosethorn Acolyte // Seasonal Ritual+Ashnod's Altar+The Mirari Conjecture+Lier, Disciple of the Drowned
{G}{U}
Infinite colorless manaInfinite creature ETBInfinite creature LTBInfinite creature sacrifice triggersInfinite death triggersInfinite magecraft triggersInfinite storm count

All 7 combos.

Commander recommendations

Top synergy 50

Played far more in this commander's decks than elsewhere.

  1. Unsubstantiate 59 %+56.7 %
  2. Secrets of the Dead 52 %+50.2 %
  3. Thought Scour 56 %+49.2 %
  4. Narset's Reversal 61 %+48.9 %
  5. Consider 64 %+48.8 %
  6. Snap 67 %+47.1 %
  7. Catalyst Stone 47 %+46.9 %
  8. Turnabout 46 %+43.4 %
  9. Frantic Search 74 %+42.4 %
  10. Archmage Emeritus 61 %+41.5 %
  11. Brain Freeze 41 %+36.2 %
  12. High Tide 80 %+35.8 %
  13. Talrand, Sky Summoner 47 %+34.4 %
  14. Solve the Equation 45 %+33.9 %
  15. Preordain 57 %+33.4 %
  16. Windfall 54 %+32.9 %
  17. Fact or Fiction 39 %+30.8 %
  18. Ponder 60 %+30.8 %
  19. Gitaxian Probe 41 %+30.5 %
  20. See the Truth 30 %+28.9 %
  21. Opt 54 %+28.9 %
  22. Merchant Scroll 36 %+28.0 %
  23. Redirect 28 %+27.1 %
  24. Summary Dismissal 28 %+26.9 %
  25. Haughty Djinn 33 %+26.7 %
  26. Murmuring Mystic 35 %+26.5 %
  27. Mental Note 27 %+25.6 %
  28. Archmage of Runes 36 %+25.0 %
  29. Serum Visions 32 %+23.5 %
  30. Misdirection 28 %+22.6 %
  31. Baral, Chief of Compliance 31 %+21.1 %
  32. Careful Study 23 %+21.0 %
  33. Thunderclap Drake 24 %+20.1 %
  34. Curate 22 %+19.5 %
  35. Brainstorm 60 %+19.1 %
  36. Hullbreaker Horror 43 %+19.0 %
  37. Shark Typhoon 26 %+18.7 %
  38. Twincast 20 %+18.6 %
  39. Lórien Revealed 26 %+18.2 %
  40. Wizards of Thay 20 %+18.1 %
  41. Riptide Laboratory 27 %+17.8 %
  42. Mindsplice Apparatus 21 %+17.6 %
  43. Spellseeker 25 %+17.2 %
  44. Case of the Ransacked Lab 20 %+17.1 %
  45. Mystical Tutor 37 %+17.1 %
  46. Docent of Perfection 20 %+16.9 %
  47. Rapid Hybridization 52 %+16.9 %
  48. Jace's Sanctum 20 %+16.4 %
  49. Sapphire Medallion 76 %+16.4 %
  50. Laboratory Maniac 36 %+16.0 %

Most included 50

Highest share of decks running them, distinctive or not.

  1. Island 92 %-1.8 %
  2. Sol Ring 81 %-3.4 %
  3. High Tide 80 %+35.8 %
  4. Sapphire Medallion 76 %+16.4 %
  5. Frantic Search 74 %+42.4 %
  6. Snap 67 %+47.1 %
  7. Consider 64 %+48.8 %
  8. Mystic Sanctuary 62 %+12.7 %
  9. Arcane Signet 62 %-2.8 %
  10. Narset's Reversal 61 %+48.9 %
  11. Archmage Emeritus 61 %+41.5 %
  12. Ponder 60 %+30.8 %
  13. Brainstorm 60 %+19.1 %
  14. Unsubstantiate 59 %+56.7 %
  15. Preordain 57 %+33.4 %
  16. Thought Scour 56 %+49.2 %
  17. Windfall 54 %+32.9 %
  18. Pongify 54 %+13.3 %
  19. Opt 54 %+28.9 %
  20. Secrets of the Dead 52 %+50.2 %
  21. Rapid Hybridization 52 %+16.9 %
  22. Catalyst Stone 47 %+46.9 %
  23. Talrand, Sky Summoner 47 %+34.4 %
  24. Reliquary Tower 47 %-8.5 %
  25. Turnabout 46 %+43.4 %
  26. Thought Vessel 46 %-5.1 %
  27. Solve the Equation 45 %+33.9 %
  28. Aetherize 44 %+12.3 %
  29. Hullbreaker Horror 43 %+19.0 %
  30. Gitaxian Probe 41 %+30.5 %
  31. Brain Freeze 41 %+36.2 %
  32. Fact or Fiction 39 %+30.8 %
  33. Reality Shift 38 %+11.9 %
  34. Mystical Tutor 37 %+17.1 %
  35. Laboratory Maniac 36 %+16.0 %
  36. Merchant Scroll 36 %+28.0 %
  37. Archmage of Runes 36 %+25.0 %
  38. Murmuring Mystic 35 %+26.5 %
  39. Sink into Stupor 35 %+12.3 %
  40. Sink into Stupor 35 %+12.3 %
  41. Cyclonic Rift 35 %+3.8 %
  42. Haughty Djinn 33 %+26.7 %
  43. Serum Visions 32 %+23.5 %
  44. Baral, Chief of Compliance 31 %+21.1 %
  45. Resculpt 31 %+15.3 %
  46. Propaganda 30 %-2.1 %
  47. See the Truth 30 %+28.9 %
  48. Flow of Knowledge 29 %+14.6 %
  49. Mind Stone 29 %-5.5 %
  50. Jace, Wielder of Mysteries 29 %+13.7 %

Format legality

Rulings

  • 2025-06-06

    "Flashback [cost]" means "You may cast this card from your graveyard if the resulting spell is an instant or sorcery spell by paying [cost] rather than paying its mana cost" and "If the flashback cost was paid, exile this card instead of putting it anywhere else any time it would leave the stack."

  • 2025-06-06

    A spell cast using flashback will always be exiled afterward, whether it resolves, is countered, or leaves the stack in some other way.

  • 2025-06-06

    If a card has multiple instances of flashback, you may choose any of its flashback costs to pay.

  • 2025-06-06

    If a card with flashback is put into your graveyard during your turn, you can cast it if it's legal to do so before any other player can take any actions.

  • 2025-06-06

    If a card with no mana cost gains flashback, it has no flashback cost. It can't be cast this way.

  • 2025-06-06

    If a split card gains flashback, you pay only the cost of the half you're casting.

  • 2025-06-06

    If you cast a spell with flashback, you can't pay any alternative costs such as overload costs. You can pay additional costs such as kicker costs. If the spell has any mandatory additional costs, you must pay those to cast the spell with flashback.

  • 2025-06-06

    If you cast an instant or sorcery with {X} in its mana cost this way, you still choose the value of X as part of casting the spell and pay that cost.

  • 2025-06-06

    To determine the total cost of a spell, start with the mana cost or alternative cost (such as a flashback cost) you're paying, add any cost increases, then apply any cost reductions. The mana value of the spell is determined only by its mana cost, no matter what the total cost to cast the spell was.

  • 2025-06-06

    You can cast a spell using flashback even if it was somehow put into your graveyard without having been cast.

  • 2025-06-06

    You must still follow any timing restrictions and permissions, including those based on the card's type. For instance, you can cast a sorcery using flashback only when you could normally cast a sorcery.

  • 2025-10-02

    Lier's last ability allows you to cast adventurer cards in your graveyard as Adventures and omen cards in your graveyard as Omens using the flashback it grants. This is because the alternative characteristics of those cards are considered when determining whether or not those spells can legally be cast. Note that only the Adventure or Omen can be cast this way. For example, if you control Lier and you have Bonecrusher Giant in your graveyard, you can cast Stomp with flashback, but not Bonecrusher Giant.

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